Deepavali VS Diwali
I was browsing through some of the video comments in Youtube for an old Petronas Deepavali commercial when I stumbled upon a person commenting “its called Deepavali its not diwali whatever that is” all of a sudden. A few follow-up replies were posted for his/her comment as what you could see below:
According to one of the commentator, Diwali, which is the northern version of our Deepavali is celebrated for a different reason where as Deepavali, the southern version, is celebrated for another reason. In that case, since we are in Malaysia and the ’southern Indians’ (inclusive of Malayalees) are what we-call-as majority amongst the Indians over here, then are we really accustomed to mix and match both the words ‘Deepavali’ and ‘Diwali’ when greeting others? In other words, do we, the Malaysian Indians, really care on the sensitivity of the usage of the words ‘Diwali’ and ‘Deepavali’?
I have even noticed that many people tend to use the word “Diwali” more often as it sounds more ‘cool’. Even advertisements in television prioritised that word, such as NTV7’s “Stars of Diwali”. I know, the words doesn’t matter but as long as the meaning is conveyed that would be enough. But, I am just wondering.
In addition to that, pay some attention to the comment by the third commentator in the above image. I was having a good laugh when he mentioned that “diwali is a corrupted way of saying Deepavali”. Haha. Just because of a usage of two different words for the same occasion, there seems to be a big furore going on.
Sigh.
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20 Responses for "Deepavali VS Diwali"
since the south indians are majority here in malaysia, we shud always use the word DEEPAVALI n not DIWALI…..!!!
do u all think the north indians would care to wish happy deepavali….?? certainly not! then y should we use diwali?
Well, wikipedia says the word “Divali/Diwali” is a corruption of the Sanskrit word “Deepavali”.
So the right word to use is definitely “DEEPAVALI”
People use Diwali not because it sounds cooler. Its definitely shorter thn Deepavali, and its saves us some effort mentioning or writing it. Personally, i’d never use the Word Diwali when greeting someone. The Hindi language doesnt fall short of being a ‘corruption’ of Sanskrit and Tamil. Those Aryan invaders have no rights to rebrand the Hindu festival of Deepavali, and Wikipedia was right to label it as a corruption of the world’s oldest language, as Veni pointed out. Even Hindi music and songs are nothing other thn Arab ghazal music mixed with a tinge of Paki flavour. The true India lies in the South. So when we speak of India we talk about Tamil Nadu, Kerala,…and the list goes on, so what they practice is wht really matters.
So Deepavali vs Diwali, definitely its Deepavali. All these NTV7 and other bulshit, cant really blame them. They are too naive and lazy to make tht extra effort to find out wht really means wht, and wht should be the correct way to go, so we cant do much but to appreciate their honesty behind their stupidity. Welcome to Malaysia and Happy Deepavali.
answering your question,
i personally grew up calling the day “deepavali”.
definitely the meaning is conveyed even if it is called “diwali”.
it is the essence that we are interested in, not the phonetics.
“A rose by any other name would smell as sweet”
It is quite logical and possible that “diwali” be a shorter version of “deepavali”. but this alone is no reason to look down upon a certain community/group/region.
replying to previous posts,
1)IF the above citation is correct, and IF my understanding that raam appeared a whole yuga before krishna, THEN the northerners have been observing “diwali” for a longer period of time compared to the relatively newer tradition of “deepavali” in the south.
then who are the right ones?the originals?
2)hindi is NOT a “corruption” of tamil or sanskrit as it evolved from the devanagari script while southern writings evolved from sanskrit.
i am not at any instance lowering the standards of sanskrit as the celestial language of the lords.
3)darker skinned “dravidians” have always stayed near the tropics while lighter skinned “aryans” have been living further up north. the aryan invasion theory (AIT) is still being debated and yet to be proved.
4) real india/greater india or spans from “paki” till nepal and bangladesh” including kashmir. But in vedic times, “bharat” also meant the entire earth, as whole of “bhoo-lokha” was under the rule of Bharat maharaj.
conclusion:
real sanatana-dharma teaches that all are spirit souls despite your current body taken (the body just helps facilitate your past aspirations and work out accrued karma), be it a northerner or a southerner. Stop the ignorance and realize your position.
to them northeners, happy diwali
to them southerners, happy deepavali
signed,
caring kudimagan
* the aforementioned “.org” website should not be taken as the total truth, as it is continuously edited by ignorant assholes like me, with links to sites that he/she likes/prefers.
inba,
u mentioned that southern writings evolved from sanskrit but there seems to be a dispute on TAMIL is the oldest language in the world, which means that there is a possibility that sanskrit might be evolved from TAMIL. Dittoing what u hv said, it is still being debated and yet to be proved.
ok guys, no point talking about history and dragging aryans and dravidians into this situation.
the malaysian indians hv been using the term ‘deepavali’ for quite long and this sudden influx of ‘diwali’ word usage is not acceptable for me. it sounds corrupted and defeats the purpose of th real meaning of DEEPAVALI, THEEPAM + OLI. how abt DIWALI? Is there such thing as DIW + ALI?
“A rose by any other name would smell as sweet”
yes, a rose is still a rose in this situation. but deepavali and diwali is not the same. Saying that we are celebrating diwali because krishna defeats narakasura is not the same as celebrating diwali because of LOrd Rama returning to Ayodha.
if diwali came first, then it should have its own background on how the name was derived. as for deepavali, it is THEEPAM + OLI. So, who are the right ones? the originals?
Whatever the spelling is, the celebration remains the same. I hope the huge amount of Makkez reader and fan here would rather be interested in wishing everyone rather than debating out of point.
Let us celebrate at least Deepavali or Diwali, T.O.G.E.T.H.E.R.
@inba
“A rose by any other name would smell as sweet”
Very well, thn, Happy Eid al-Fitr, Inba for the celebrations this coming Monday.
“* the aforementioned “.org” website should not be taken as the total truth, as it is continuously edited by ignorant assholes like me, with links to sites that he/she likes/prefers.”
Wikipedia is a safe source of information. Even if assholes like you edit it, you’ll probably not get to do it more thn twice, trice. Wikipedia has moderators whom constantly monitor articles from cybercriminals .
And this are the few things you’ve mentioned:-
“northerners have been observing “diwali” for a longer period of time compared to the relatively newer tradition of “deepavali” in the south. ”
“i am not at any instance lowering the standards of sanskrit as the celestial language of the lords”
And then, this: “Stop the ignorance and realize your position.”
Firstly, you are giving me an impression tht you’re a class/caste/’position’ conscious bigot. You seem to be putting the ‘northerners’ in a totally different class compared to their southern counterparts.
And you also said this:-
”
the aryan invasion theory (AIT) is still being debated and yet to be proved. ”
But this has been proved?:-
“IF the above citation is correct, and IF my understanding that raam appeared a whole yuga before krishna, THEN the northerners have been observing “diwali” for a longer period of time compared to the relatively newer tradition of “deepavali” in the south. ”
Geographically, the Indus Valley (home and origin of the Indus civilisation) lies towards the north of India. And the Indus people at tht time were none other thn your “‘darker skinned “dravidians” . It is however a mystery as to how once a great civilisation got crippled and became a ‘was’. Theories suggests tht either an Aryan invasion or natural disaster was the culprit. The only natural disasters possible are Monsoon floodings, and arguably starvation. At tht time, i believe starvation wasnt a problem as the population hadnt been a billion and there werent any corruption. Floodings wouldnt have caused the fall of an empire. The only option seems to be the ARyan Invasion. The thing is, its not tht no one has ever proven it true, its just that no one wants to. It is in the interest of the 1 billion people of India tht such theories might seem unimportant.
Just like the Cambay civilization theory. Do you know tht archeologists discovered a submerged city offshore Cambay, India? The city was dated(proven) at least 5500 to 9000 years ago. Right now the claimed world’s oldest civilisation, the Mesopotamian Civilization, was dated to abt 4500-5000BC. Which means tht there is already prove tht people were already shitting in toilets and having comunal baths in India way before tht. This was a hot topic a few years back, but do you hear anything about it now? NO. WHY? because Western historians are turning a blind eye on this great finding, because this would mean everything would have to be altered accordingly to accomodate th new ‘truth’. Hah, these arent my sayings, they were by a BBC reporter, Tom Housden, who said tht “The whole model of the origins of civilisation will have to be remade from scratch.”
Why Cambay? we’ve got examples in our own backyard itself! Remember the ruins tht were discovered in Pahang/Johore a couple of years back as well? They sent samples to the UK, and the results confirmed it. It belonged to a Hindu civilisaton. Immediately all restoration and preservation works came to a complete halt,the reasons are pretty obvious, and while most malaysian have forgotten about it, i’ve not!
Sometimes, some things arent proven YET, not because they’re impossible, but because no one is willing to.
If my long reply doesnt make you ‘click’ that the Aryan Invasion was in fact genuine, thn how about this, if you can believe in God , why not the Aryan Theory and the fact tht they ‘borrowed’ A LOT from the ’southerners’?
@ Bro Durai
” I hope the huge amount of Makkez reader and fan here would rather be interested in wishing everyone rather than debating out of point.”
Let me recap the title, “Deepavali VS Diwali “.
Bro, the moment i saw the title, i already knew wht was in store, even without reading the 1st line of the post. This is not the kinda title which invites readers to exchange pleasantries. I think we are all discussing the origins of the words and related items and its quite appropriate. Trust me, it doesnt get any better thn this. On Diwali..Ooops..Deepavali Day ill definitely come here again and wish you guys!
@ the truth
slamat hari raya eidul-fitr
maaf zahir batin
Hmmm Sactyr reads the article, then the comments, and then realises no Malaysian politics is involved, so he deeply regrets that he couldn’t contribute to the thought-provoking comments.
Though, he would like to extend “seasonal” greetings to Makkez and everyone.
Oh my, I’m speechless….
I made this post due to the ‘third commentator’ in the youtube video that I have mentioned above. I was just wondering about the usage of both “Diwali” and “Deepavali” since there are some people who likes it because both carries the same meaning, while some did not liked it because it doesn’t reflect the originality of their ethnic/language.
Apart from seeing you guys debating here, I have learnt some new things from my fellow History geeks!
Thanks for the valuable information buddies!
Happy Deepavali to all!
@Durai - ‘Reader’ ok, but ‘fan’ ellam kadeiyathu bro.. I am not RagedIndian..
whatever it is… the meaning is same, ok.
north indian or south indian, they both are indian… why wanna fight sumore??? enough ”kucar-kacir” la bro…
peace ”vendum” for our festival…
Happy Deepavali Everyone…!!!
well, this is my way…
whats yours…
thats ur wish!
COOOOLLL!!!!
noo..southies are sexy dravidians..we are not the same as the aryan..who are northiess…
ermm..i grew up saying thivali..thivali but it always been deepavalli when its written on a card/on the net..
(its very common in msia)
yes i do agree..lotsa youngsters…prefer to use diwali since in their point of view its classier cuz is from north and it is a very sick mentality!
our tamilans are very humble people…marrying a chindian or punjabi girl means..something really great for them but on the other hand the punjabis will look down on punjabis who marries a south indian
ppl seem to be out of things to argue about going on about diwali and deepavali. It means the same, why bother so much? ppl can be really ridiculous
yennaiyaa…yellorum poothu kolappuringge….DEEPAVALI…is Tamil language. whereby Diwali is kampung language. whatever it is… the meaning is same. Lets TOGETHER we pray for this festival & hope our Indians future to be bright like theeba oli.
“ANAIVARUKKUM YEN INIYA DEEPAVALI NAL VAZHLTHUKKAL”
no its not the same..diwali is celebrated on 28th october…in north india
deepavalli in celebrated on 27th in tamilnadu,andra pradesh,karnataka and also bengal
ps: deepavalli is low affair in kerala….onam is like deepavallif for them
halamak,apa nie bro??
Diwali ke,Deepavali ke!? Semua sama juga,la…
Wishing all kaigez,machans and machis HAPPY DEEPAVALI!!
Enjoy da day!!
Dude, GOOD JOB
u know whats weird, all my malay & chinese frens have wished me happy deepavali (hebat kan)!
anna nambe indians romba sothupitange Diwali ye paichi
if ur a tamil…then its deepavalli for you ..diwali if ur northi and depabali if ur from kolkotta?(bengali)
in spore at first the gov gazzetted 28th october as deepavalli (cuz in India 28th is diwali in delhi all ) but upon consultation with mathematicians from NUS and also hindu org of spore they changed it to 27th oct(deepavalli for tamils,telugus,mallus and kannadagis plus konkanis,tuluvas and etc)
Hey there TRUTH….pls email me at ishtarsarawanan@gmail.com…
I like what you have said and i have got things to share too….do drop me a line…
Cheers……….
Regards
Ishtar
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